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Message: To put a long story short, they suffer from very high bandwidth load and decided to get rid of me. And they started cursing my site.
The following thread is their authentic thread. Find it on Google if interested or not believing.
Their texts are in frames, my responses follow.

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  • Asahi
  • well .. i was searching for a 'illu serie' with google.. and than i found that site http://zwz.myftp.org/gallery/zwz_gal_wall44.htm with a lot of MT-wallpapers . i think that the owner of this site didnt ask us to link/take our wps their or ?? isnt correct or ??
    I don't ask not to risk negative responses. (Loose quote from the binary beings in Star Trek.)
  • Osiris
  • it says zdenek....a member we banned awhile ago damn..probably did it for revenge? smiley i better not see any of my walls there..that hoe then again it doesnt look like a real site, looks more like a private storage area..dunno smiley [edit] i take that back, the ass really did put up a real site for public viewing http://zwz.myftp.org/gallery/
    It existed long before the ban and was and is meant as a public service. Not for revenge, sorry if you think so.
  • tAtEkAnE
  • i remember the name zdenek smiley i think he/she was a member here b4 O_O
    You think? And then I thought I had a weak memory!
  • spikespiegel
  • What a prick.Does this happen alot or is he just twisted?
    This doesn't happen too much in general. And rest assured that I'm the most twisted person you have ever known.
  • papyworld
  • myftp.org is no-ip.com ; then he's running his own webserver. we have therefore no providers to leave a complaint ... If he did that for revenge i think there is no legal way to make him stop ... am i wrong ?
    *claps hands* He's experienced enough to determine the DNS company!
  • chrno
  • we could write a e-mail to: no-ip.com this damn fu**ing poor little zdenek or whatever he or she ist called -.- He has stolen a lot of wallpapers! We could write to no-ip.com and told them our problem, maybe they will agree to give us his/her ip!!! Than we could hack his pc! -.-
    As for complaining to No-IP: They let DC++ hubs slip. Do you really think that they would kick a paying non-P2P member like me?
  • KorganoS
  • Quote by tAtEkAnE: i remember the name zdenek smiley i think he/she was a member here b4 O_O hey, the name looks familiar.... yes, that prick was in AO, too smiley
    Of course. But back then, you didn't show up in such a way like here - like a traitor, that is.
  • Athrun
  • Where the fzxk did he get the space to save all that? o_O However, my upload speed is 128k only, so if you want it faster, donate some money. $80 per month will be required to boost the speed to 256kbp :O What a maggot...
    Too scared to even say FUCK! Ha ha! And, oh, I will pay it myself.
  • Seran
  • This is serious problem. If only I could hack his site with some neat program.I believe thats a choice but the other choice is not too good I do think.
    You make it seem like a problem. This site is useful for those not blinded with hate like you.
  • MyrrhLynn
  • Yeah I'm not sure what sort of "legal" action could be taken. smiley I think that as long as he's not selling them, not much can be done. (if he was selling them we could sue his rear off) smiley
    Requesting money would be a bigger obstacle than registration. And I want people to be happy and get it instantly.
  • aquablue
  • This thinks that it is contrary to individual copyright. The renunciation of the copyright? smiley
    Copyright was created by businessmen who want to profit on others' works. A real artist is proud to be copied. Especially when his signature remains in the corner of the picture!
  • jackalx66
  • another stupid ripper is mine there too smiley ? must check this like nuri problem back while a go with animegaleries
    Another? Can you be more specific? (No, he just babbled.)
  • tarkus
  • Nothing you can do. People that do things like this get what they deserve in the end - bad karma and all that. So let them be and keep going...
    My karma is 640 points in the Tickle test. What can you boast with?
    And no matter what you think, I'm doing this all out of good will.
  • Vincent
  • ... lol man , people like that wont stop to exist , will they .. ? about hacking , he is prolly hosting that page on either his own server or another webserver , so if he's got it on his own compy , hacking would link to hacking him which would resume in him being able to sue you prolly for entering his computer without permission , for the legal stuff again , you couldnt sue him since the scans most ppl use arent owned or created by them they just scanned those ... but did any of you really ask the real creator(mostly japanese ones) if you can use this or that picture for your own wallpaper ? I think not so theres the legal thing , you'd lose in the end ... only thing you can do is just tell no-ip.com [[Edit]] Just checked the page and found myself waiting quite a long time for each wallpaper - so thus I assume he keeps that ftp running on his own machine...
    FTP - Correct. And you have the point - all you complainers rip Japanese artists and you think it's perfectly normal.
  • spikespiegel
  • Quote by KorganoS: Quote by tAtEkAnE: i remember the name zdenek smiley i think he/she was a member here b4 O_O hey, the name looks familiar.... yes, that prick was in AO, too smiley I remember him now.Didn't he really piss off one of the mods or sumthin. Quote by chrno: we could write a e-mail to: no-ip.com this damn fu**ing poor little zdenek or whatever he or she ist called -.- He has stolen a lot of wallpapers! We could write to no-ip.com and told them our problem, maybe they will agree to give us his/her ip!!! Than we could hack his pc! -.- Nahif they did just send a nasty little virus too him that'd teach him smiley .
    From what you write, you have no clue about how to get a site's IP. My IP won't get you anywhere. And No-IP will leave me alone.
  • GundamZZ
  • ROFL....and i thought it will be the last time we'll hear from him after banning his @$$ smiley .....what a hoe smiley but therez nothing much u can do if they dont reply to ur email complaints smiley *cough*boyis.com*cough*
    I'm sorry to see you unsatisfied.
  • Nuriko
  • http://nekio.com/ was also ripped. Calling a lawyer now smiley
    Erm, show me which picture on Nekio is not ripped! ROFLMAO (Perhaps the layout.)
  • Praetorian
  • This will be interesting... sad that people want to rip though...
    It's not ripping and you should be happy to get my URL.
  • wuschel
  • i love those people who ripp, they dont even care that you spend hours on your wallpaper they just take it and the most time there is nothing you can do about it cause they also claim that you are not the "legal owner" cause of the fact you used a anime image without the permission of the legal owner.. blah blah ... s lol gundam... boyis.com is the most hilarous thing i have ever seen, they dont like it if you post images from ther cg stuff in other communitys like daydreamgraphics... but hell its okey for them to take wallpapers without permision i hope all this people will burn in hell ... i dont really mind it much if its just one guy that has no brain and ripp ur walls but that someone who claim to have now a community etc and ripp walls ist just more then brainless the only thing that i will do is to contact that stupid hoster (sure most people hear have made it) i dont want my wallpapers to show in other communitys if i want that hell i would have done it by my own... dont need other idiots to do so yeah im pissed off =_= gomen nasai , thank you asashi for posting the link lol okey edit: nothing u can do about it, he has no hoster its just his stupid own pc/server whatever i just will pray that he will get screwed up and *peeeeeeep*
    I do care, I have also drowned days of my free time in making wallpapers, believe it or not. And from the hoster's perspective, MT, Boyis and me are the same caboodle, so don't saw off the branch you are sitting on!
  • Foreigner999
  • Probably used a site crawler to rip so many images (or maybe hes superhuman?). If you download anything or initiate a connect with the server the ip resulting from that connection is likely to be his "server" ip (read: personal comp?) . Using a tool like languard security scanner it is easy to see if the server has any vulnerabilities. But then again this is all pretty murky in legal issues. Could always send a cease and desist letter and make broad claims of copyright infringement. hehe probably wouldn't work but hey it might scare him enough to take it down.
    I rarely use a crawler, but I can. As for the LanGuard, it just recommended to install GFI's own USB-limiting software. =^V^=
  • Revelias
  • Quote by Foreigner999: Probably used a site crawler to rip so many images (or maybe hes superhuman?). If you download anything or initiate a connect with the server the ip resulting from that connection is likely to be his "server" ip (read: personal comp?) . Using a tool like languard security scanner it is easy to see if the server has any vulnerabilities. But then again this is all pretty murky in legal issues. Could always send a cease and desist letter and make broad claims of copyright infringement. hehe probably wouldn't work but hey it might scare him enough to take it down. Great thought but maybe he/she just rejoined MT under a differnt name didn't tick anyone off and just downloaded them from here.
    Good idea, I will do that eventually.
  • Celessa
  • As much as I hate to admit it, no matter where you go, stuff will be copied and burned and there is nothing many people can do around here. When copying scans and posting them here, it actually is borrowing an image without real copyrights permission. Besides, borrowing another image of something already borrowed is not necessary deemed directly illegal, as long as there are necessary precautions taking place and the numbers are enormous. And I have to admit, everyone here is at fault too. You have PC games and MP3s burnt off as well. If everyone had their own copyright symbols, it would be hard to track down the theiving culprit because it spreads like wildfire - there are too many who share stuff from sites just for the heck of it and to mass search all these people are a lost cause. Even though I hate to say it - it costs way too much money and most people give up by then. I rather put my mind aside and just write a complaint. Note that there are many other smaller sites that do the same - so legality issues, this is a no-win situation. Scaring people off is gonna make things worse unfortunately.
    Correct.
  • calisqo
  • Wow , yeah the site does have A LOT and I mean a LOT This is serious, mods need to get their actions started. Asahi thanks for pointing it out to us. U deserve to be an elite member in my opnion : )
    This is a perfect example how to gain position by betraying your colleague.
  • spikespiegel
  • Quote by Foreigner999: Probably used a site crawler to rip so many images (or maybe hes superhuman?). If you download anything or initiate a connect with the server the ip resulting from that connection is likely to be his "server" ip (read: personal comp?) . Using a tool like languard security scanner it is easy to see if the server has any vulnerabilities. But then again this is all pretty murky in legal issues. Could always send a cease and desist letter and make broad claims of copyright infringement. hehe probably wouldn't work but hey it might scare him enough to take it down. There's a couple of problems there : 1- say you hack his server and wipe it or screw it up that is legally punishable under the privacy laws. 2- unless you've actually gone and gotten a copyright that says all your work cannot be coppied there's no actuall copyright infringment. 3- The son of a b#*@h as actually taken all of these walls etc.In other words he's a game sob so he won't be scared easily. However i could be wrong, but i know there's not many lawyers game enough to take on a case as dodgy as this. So basically we're screwed legally as far as i know, But like i said i could be wrong.However there's always illegal ways that work.Provided ya know how to cover your digital tracks.
    You are true in one point - I won't say an ape's paternoster because of this thread. :) But I'm not neck deep in games.
  • Foreigner999
  • Quote by Revelias: Quote by Foreigner999: Probably used a site crawler to rip so many images (or maybe hes superhuman?). If you download anything or initiate a connect with the server the ip resulting from that connection is likely to be his "server" ip (read: personal comp?) . Using a tool like languard security scanner it is easy to see if the server has any vulnerabilities. But then again this is all pretty murky in legal issues. Could always send a cease and desist letter and make broad claims of copyright infringement. hehe probably wouldn't work but hey it might scare him enough to take it down. Great thought but maybe he/she just rejoined MT under a differnt name didn't tick anyone off and just downloaded them from here. Very possible but i think that is unlikely because on the front page it says enough information to deduce his methods. ================================================================ The long-awaited gallery with thumbnails is available for browsing! It contains over 10,000 pictures, where many of them are quality anime wallpapers! I wonder if any free site offers this huge amount of images. You'll be surprised. However, my upload speed is 128k only, so if you want it faster, donate some money. $80 per month will be required to boost the speed to 256kbps. Note: You may not be able to see some pictures because they contain semicolon ; in the name. In that case, view the page with some other browser than Internet Explorer. IE does not support ";" in an url. ================================================================ a)(...) hes doing it from what is very likely a Home based cable/dsl connection since he he claims 128k upload (cable or low end dsl). By the way most cable companies have a strong rule about running servers with a cable connection. This is another easy route to go if you want to report "improper use" of equipment and services. lets face it, almost all Hosting isp's dont give you such a paltry upload capacity...most offer T1 speeds on a non-dedicated line. B) claims to have problems with semi-colons which again is another sign hes not doing it by hand but in an automated fasion...maybe not being ripped all too well? Either way im sure his isp (if cable) would love to hear about his uploading server and likely his violation of the EULA (^_^)' im so mean :p
    1. Use Firefox.
    2. I want to keep them there to increase readability of the filenames.
    3. My ISP is my friend. :-E And he's got sharp elbows as well.
  • Celessa
  • I second my notion, this site is... wow... okay - maybe I got this all figured out wrong, I though it was just a site on anime only - but they mass ripped everything from Boa N., Divine Ayu, Espellone, Digitalimagery, Digitalfireworks, Veronica, and even MT... This site just mass ripped everything I ever came across with and its for the public to download off of... I looked up the site and so far it's very nice, but its not a very neat picture. This person will have a hard road ahead when someone stamps a legal case against this zdenek person, who I did come across with a long time ago before I even came to MT. Wow...
    I mirror it in case the original site goes under. Which really happened with some of them, namely AnimeOnline.
  • Rebel-Soul-Kaze
  • I think that Celessa is right in a lot of ways,but i think similar to wushel,is very annoying that u pass a lot of time making a wall,and some guy/girl,just download and send it to another place,without youre permission - -
    Different people, different opinions.
  • Jinzhou
  • No matter what, no form of "legal action" can be taken from the point of him ripping walls. This is because technically every waller rips pictures from stock images to use on their walls. Now it may not be major, and not a lot of people care, but it IS bad and can be used as a countersuit-- and I don't think every waller here wants to be sued for walling do they? The most you can actually get him for is improper use of his internet connection and maybe maluse of other people's properties...because the background is ours-- but that ties in with the anime thing. So yeah, Zde's a bitch that got banned because he was, well... a bitch. For the most part, I see no problem with it because: Zde was lazy enough to leave people's sigs on there, so it's like free promo's for people's sites.
    Jinzhou, oh please, stop pursuing your impolite sense of humor! Instead of firstly apologizing to me, you behaved like a brass kid.
  • arkive
  • that's true most wallies are borrowed then shoped to our liking but taking strait walls that's gay i remember that dude i wonder why exactly he got baned ? o well skrew him he's not a part of MT so foget about him. im sure the right things will be done and justice will be served!
    Nota bene, the justice isn't biased in your favor, so expect us to stay.
  • o74ku91n0y
  • i just dont understand why people do this........i mean.......it'll catch up with them sooner or later......... and when it does.........they look like more of a fool than they originally were
    Then be at least as diligent as me and read my articles on my site. You might understand me then.
  • kaylessa
  • That f$*(% ripped my wallpapers also! errr this goes to show that I was right from the start...this guy was a down right loser that had no clue what the hell he was talking about, doing, or even was here for the right reason. No, he was here for all the wrong reasons and now he's stealing people's walls, putting them up on a crap site that is sooooo god damn slow it not even funny and for that matter didn't ask one god damn person here or he ripped them walls from if he could display them. Even though he left all copyrights on people's wallpapers, doesn't mean that he had the right to take them. Maybe for some of us we didn't want our wallpapers to be displayed on a crap site or a site at all. If someone can find what service for the net he is going through, could get a hold of them and say,"Hey look, this users had stolen and displayed work of mine that he did not ask to display." and boom take his ass down. Anyone know how to find the ip? track that and it will tell you what service he's using.
    If Minitokyo is for vengeful trollers like you, then I don't want to belong there. Please compare yourself and me, who's the bad guy actually?
  • blueboy21
  • You know if hes useing peoples Original art'(that they made by themselfs with no anime in it) then people can go after him. Right?
    Technically, yes. But, you know, this all is just computer stuff and I wonder if someone would bring any of your rants to reality.
  • kaylessa
  • @Blueboy21 I would think so, it their work all together and no stock images. They made the whole thing from hand >< hmmm he does have a lot of work that not stock images on his site hey if he's with no-ip.com has anyone tried writing them yet and shutting him down?
    If yes, then unsuccessfully.
  • Frosty
  • Seriously, I was thinking that if you are going to post something like this, they are going to get "ripped" like what you guys been trying to avoid. I guess alot of you guys "including myself" takes alot of pride in our efforts making them "especially after spending hours or even days on them" but lets face it, if the image is going to be out in public like so, they are most likely going to get "rip". its a problem thats beyond control, just like d/l mp3s and d/l anime, movies, tv shows in genreal, we are the makers and there are the ones who is keeping it "ripped" or "public / free". i would suggest having the author of those works e-mail those sob who ripped their image and ask to take them off, but other than that, theres really little anyone of us can do unless you are going to bring out the lawyers.. lol.. xd i guess is still fine if you still have like your name / website on the wall, but they even edit those thing out... or worst, put their name on it and clain they made it! ... "put out the lawyers and angry mob + guns, knives, tanks, planes, the army, navy, air force whatever...." lol... smiley lock and loaded guys. "lets go kick some ripper's butt!... lol... boom! smiley
    I keep the source in place, whereever possible.
  • DarkVirus
  • this zdenek guy is pretty sick for ripping from this site............................................................
    I'm sick, but it's not an issue of wallpapers.
  • gigahertz
  • Excuse my language but I think we should kick his ass! smiley That way, we will all be happy. Or we I could plant a virus on the website and totally destroy it! smiley What do you think?
    Another post that proves which side are the bad guys, actually. I'm tolerant, note it.
  • Adie
  • 100% blood & gore in this thread smiley. Actions, not words my friends(D.O.S.).
    How many hours can you last with DoS? It will be back after that.
    And most people don't know what a denial of service is anyway.
  • NightWolf16
  • Wow wat a ba$tard stupid Hoe i hope he didnt steal any of mine smiley smiley
    If they were beautiful, cute or something, I might have. If you discover them here, be happy, not angry.
  • gundam
  • wow that is bad
    This thread? For sure!
  • Jinzhou
  • Quote by blueboy21: You know if hes useing peoples Original art'(that they made by themselfs with no anime in it) then people can go after him. Right? Yes, you can go after someone for stealing your original art.
    Those who make original art won't bother with someone (me) advertising them.
  • eunasahng
  • Ripped walls!!! This is so unfair!! I recognise a couple of walls... but I'm not looking through 500 pages just to see if mine's there... =_=' What are we gonna do about this?? I reckon this is unacceptable!!!
    There's the Search feature! Don't be lame. And besides, it's in Google!
  • GintheTwilightswords
  • *unsheaths zanmato*One of the few people I can't stand in this world are thieving,petty,deceitful bastards like this zdenek guy that's ripped so many of you guys walls and artwork.Alot of you have been right that there is little any of us can do since he's doing it from his own server and were in the wrong to for taking other artist scans,but what he's done is totally despicable and I am not very pleased by what this ingrate has done.The most anyone of us can do is contact the company providing his service that he's perverting the usage of it.And if someone is extremely good at hacking,you could do something to repay the little MF for his mideeds.Other than that,we can't do much except make sure nothing like this happens again or gets this bad,even though in actuality it's going to continue since poepl rip stuff off everyday.Plus we can tarck down zdenek's new log and ban his punkass again and slice him up real good-like smiley ^uu^(evil grin).
    You won't enter the same river twice.
  • Miroku4444
  • Wow, I cant believe Zdeneck did this. I never thought he was that kind of person. It shows how right the mt staff was in banning him. smiley
    What I have done isn't bad in the first place. Unluckily, you are blind with hate.
  • Sorceres00
  • Yeah i remember that guy smiley , what's going on with him, taking what is from others .... smiley Many people (like Asahi, Osi, Irix, korganos, Chrno, me and many others) spent a lot of hours to do walls to share with others..... but y'know ....... this world is full of robbers... why he were banned? smiley ahh how cares if i were a hacker smiley maybe i'll be able to do something smiley
    Hackers are people with attitude, they won't hack me, I suppose. I didn't rob anyone.
  • Shadowdude
  • WTF!!! hell no, what a poor loner. man, dont worry guys! i got this one covered! Edit:Ok guys i got an idea, everybody e-mail him to death to annoy him, so he can feel our hate to him. if any good hackers here, HACK HIS ASS!
    I never got a single hating mail - you FAIL!
  • Vivid-Rein
  • Quote by Athrun: Where the fzxk did he get the space to save all that? o_O However, my upload speed is 128k only, so if you want it faster, donate some money. $80 per month will be required to boost the speed to 256kbp :O What a maggot... Thanks for qouting that, because, since he is asking for money to "boost up" his ripping power, i think that can be classified as stealing peoples money. Afterall, he isnt posting any of his own work... -burns him-
    I'm posting my work, please read the site properly. And I know that I won't get any money from you ingrates.
  • DarkEVO
  • Quote by Asahi: well .. i was searching for a 'illu serie' with google.. and than i found that site http://zwz.myftp.org/gallery/zwz_gal_wall44.htm with a lot of MT-wallpapers . i think that the owner of this site didnt ask us to link/take our wps their or ?? isnt correct or ?? This zdenek better not have my wallpapers up there without my permission. Or else me and a couple of my friends will shove a grenade up his @$$ and blow him into pieces. Better yet I'll call the Mafia on him. He rips, We whack him.
    Tough guy!
  • Kozumura
  • After scrolling thru pages of slow loading stoalen walls, I'm pretty impressed and disgusted at the same time. He's mangaed to rip so many walls, from so mnay different places. And all on this tiny boradband connection. So far I think most pople would be angrym including me to have their walls being taken and posts on site without their permission. I mean if he would at the most "credit" where he got them from, I wouldn't be pisse dright now. but this is too far. Legally, I doubt anyone would gain anything. but my blood's boiling right now.
    I actually started with a 64k ISDN, which I had for 2 years. Then I changed my provider and continued with 64k for another year. Then I boosted up to 128k, which I currently have for a year and half.
    I saved nearly all the images manually, except for 200 or so from a site whose style had uncomfortable links.
    I do it for your convenience, this indexing and mirroring and such. Please open your soul's eye.
  • ded113
  • That XXXXface!!! I see SOME of MY works!! mine!!! That bastard!! I have a LOT of colorful words to say but...underaged could see this! I saw MANY of my friends' popular works there!! EVEN MY OLD ones!!!! He crossed the line!! That nimrod! It's bad enough that he rips BUT making a site from ripped walls?!!! That a low blow!! Hmm it seems that he's gotten them from AO! Cause I still lookin at this XXXXin' site! He stolen over 7!!!! I HATE him!!
  • spikespiegel
  • Quote by Shadowdude: WTF!!! hell no, what a poor loner. man, dont worry guys! i got this one covered! Edit:Ok guys i got an idea, everybody e-mail him to death to annoy him, so he can feel our hate to him. if any good hackers here, HACK HIS ASS! I know a mate who has a mail bomber if that'd make anyone happy ^_^.
    I know a provider who can blacklist your friend with a mail bomber. And that would make me happy, on the other side.
  • kaylessa
  • For real, the bastard has like six of my wallpapers up on his bloody f'en site. And I didn't even look their it all yet! Stupid little sh*t. Errrr I'm pissed just as much as everyone else here. Glad he doesn't have any of my newer stuff on his site. *shaking head* well this just down right sucks, because their partly nothing we can do about it to take his stupid ass down or rip that site a part and think about it. Even if we hacked his site, what good would it do? Someone would have to hack his computer and delete his hard drive to get rid of all the wallpapers he's stolen. If not he's just going to rebuild that damn site back up and put them all back again and ask people to pay for a site that is full of ripped wallpapers that he had no permission to take or display. Email bomb him sure, but then he'll most likely get a new email or such and that would drive the site down. I think for the most part we are screwed on this and that what pissing me off the most.
    Your newer ones got better, it's a shame that you must accompany them with this ungirly cussing. You didn't wait for my praising and became my enemy. That's wrong. By the way, did someone mention karma?
  • sammo
  • lol zdenek...figures, he was banned for ripping smiley i dont really care so long as my signature on the wallpaper remains though...i really never expected my walls to stay on imanimetions.net and minitokyo.net only anyways.
    Sure, it remains. I'm not ripping, after all.
  • ShueiTenshi
  • he, he to say the truth I don't mind people seeing my walls even if I don't get credit for them (a real artist or a real fool smiley )
    Totally AGREED! You are the man!
  • Zuri-chan
  • Oooh..I see some of mine. smiley HM..i wonder..if it is possible to overload this server..hm...*hint* *hint*
    It is possible, but in a few minutes, it will be sufficiently free again. What can you gain?
  • kaylessa
  • @Zuri-Chan No it not possible...his server is his computer. He's not using an homepage site or such. He's using his very own computer to run this site. And yes he is running through no-ip.com just found that out by signing up myself and finding that same url on the site. Sooooo people write to no-ip.com and have him banned from there. There not many places he can run and keep doing this crap.
    I have a DNS for myself already, it would suck to lose that domain, but the site would remain here for everybody anyway!
  • Yumi-Chan
  • i think i know zdenek. wtf, wat's he/she trynna do to us I mean smiley;; goddammit... argh.. smiley;; there's nothing we can really do can we? smiley Geez, does he/she have anything better to do than this. A revenge for being banned from mt?.. =_=' Argh this is really pissing me off
    I'm not trying to do anything to you. The problem of yours is that you interpret my actions as revenge. They are not.
  • Kurosawa
  • oh so.. this guy who named zdenek was the ripping , I hear this from many member too smiley. What we can do now ? maybe he revege for the banned because ripping wallie. Man this is really sucks.. smiley
    Please read the thread before posting.
  • semanga
  • Ich bin so schockiert wie kann der es wagen unsere wall da in seiner seite auszustellen ohne uns zu fragen der spinnt doch am liebesten wuerde ich ihm mit anlauf in den hintern tretten ..... stink wut hab in mir .....gggghhhhh... smiley smiley smiley
    Deutsch ist verboten hier! :)
  • Crash-kun
  • this is bad yeah yeah, cant do a thing, wonder if i cud crack tru his server......not! let legal pipol do they stuffs, they shud do somthin coz if not, wat are they for. he such a looser.
    Are you on dope or something?
  • shinta
  • I actually agree with sammo. As long as he's not making any profit from it, as long as the sigs are there and as long as he doesn't claim them to be his works its alright with me. LOLz I saw one of my walls in there he titled it "Merry Christmas from Imanimetions" smiley
    See, I try to keep the source there. And glad to see you smiling.
  • chibicow
  • Okay, for everyone who hates this guy, a number of people are still actually his "friend" these people may wish to remove him from their friendslist Noctum biriwilg semanga taste rojacol shyxsakura kastelic4444 Sandra kc2 PANDAgirl Elie WunAngelwHoney jingjing1208 tAtEkAnE Aerith0530 YoukoxLover akari-tenshi Taurec Coordinator RW KittyPuchiko mika Abadonna Darkspyder86 LiquidFuel smsm Kyo chidix lashaun Chocobo Just thought yous might want to know!
    To those who are both in the friendlist and ranted in this thread: Where is your fidelity? Go figure!
  • boei
  • whoa this guy is CRazee... 277 pages of stolen wallpapers... has he nothing betta to do??? hmm.. and he doesnt acknowledge them too... bastard... since we have nothing that we can do against him legally... this is a reminder to us that we must always leave our names and sites in any work we submit in mt...
    278, my dear, 278! And counting!
  • asuk
  • wow, judging from this zdenek's guestbook, he actually makes an effort to comment on walls and at the same time ripping em. and makes some friends in the process. and now everyone wants a piece of his ass. hahah
    True. I really took you for friends before. I'm sad that you weren't able to keep up.
  • ShueiTenshi
  • Dat izz sooo true >__< Wtf is going on with that guy ^o^
    I'm always the same, it's you who discovers more and more. My gallery was there before as well.
  • Paolo
  • ...hail to the thief...
    Heil Hitler! *hides*
  • Radeonator
  • Oh s***..... damn ripper, @%^@^ just go to hell will he? another guy with vengance........ bad luck.
    Please read the thread before posting.
  • loveshen
  • we should protec our right and pictures; or who are hackers? so we could simply sovle that.
    The hackers have attitude, I'm sorry to repeat it for those who did listen.
  • leviathanrk
  • Quote by Paolo: ...hail to the thief... ROFL Quote by loveshen: we should protec our right and pictures; or who are hackers? so we could simply sovle that. I don't think any of the hackers here will publicly announce themselves; Especially for a request to do something illegal.
    And more especially when there's no goal to reach by it.
  • kawaiiflower
  • ... i don't know what this guy actually doing?? rating MT's wallpapers?? and hoping people to credit him??
    I never wanted to be "credited" for others' wallpapers, it's a mirror.
  • KorganoS
  • Hello, MT member! Take it easy, conciliation with the world is the only way. - Zdenek. lol smiley he sure has a modest sense of humor, for a ripper... he's lucky because I haven't seen (and hopefully not) my wallpies in there...
    I'd be equally lucky if you saw them there.
  • zephiris26
  • Honestly, get a life Zdenek! smiley I don't think any of my walls will be in there because they suck, but there's like half of MT in there O_O
    Maybe you'll improve during time and find them being hosted by me. Who knows?
  • Shadowdude
  • holy shyt, whats with Zdenek ???! >< imma *smashes HIS forehead WITH gutiar OF rage* *runs HIM OVER WITH A BIKE WITH rage*
    You are merely amplifying what you have read so far. In fact, you are ripping your fellows' comments!!
  • kawaiiflower
  • Quote by zephiris26: Honestly, get a life Zdenek! smiley I don't think any of my walls will be in there because they suck, but there's like half of MT in there O_O I don't think any of my wallpaper will appear on his site either for the same reason... my wallpapers sucks
    You need more self-confidence.
  • xandman
  • man, i think i speak up for the peeps here when i say.... Whatcha talkin' about? The wallpapers made for MT are made solely for MT, all of the members joining this community knows that. And i don't think people submits high-quality gallery items, just to see it being used by someone else on their own site without even the slightest notification to the artist. i checked out the site of course... and the person responsible for that site didn't even give credit to the artist, or at least supplied a source and link to the artist yeah? No he didn't. So that dude or babe or whatever are responsible for such fraudulent behavior. yeah sure, of course we use stock images to build our walls, but the finished result is still our own work and is still the final image to be counted. Besides, if that "ripper" accuses the members of MT for using stock images in our own works, then it damn sure won't be an advantage for the imposter, because... well, check it out.... 1. we use stock images right? These stock images are made from other pro artists, but we're merging it with our own wallpapers. 2. the finished wallpaper are under the respective owners copyright policy, whether we're using stock images or not. 3. if someone else rips these works, then the wall still belongs to it's respective owner, and the stock images still belongs to the pro artist. So to make it worse for the "ripper", he's not stealing one masterpiece, he's stealing two masterpieces.... both the stock images and the finished wall itself. 4. so if you get what i said, he ain't got much to say, unless he were permitted to use the masterpieces of disasterpieces, and i believe he wasn't. So he's pretty much pawned. ^_^ *bows and hears the audience clapping and wowing!!* thank you, thank you smiley haha.... i'll be here on monday and wednesday nights! Thank you, thank you smiley hahahaha...
    Every human has the right to view a delightful piece of art. So, nothing can be solely for MT.
  • CMonster
  • lol i'd love to get a chunk of his ass for bashing purposes of course smiley smiley i've seen him on AO before i swear that stupid bstrd doesn't even understand half the crap he posts as comments smiley
    Well, I do. And, admit it, this comment of yours wasn't too coherent either.
  • MoonlightEternity
  • Ok, so basically, all wallpapers here are made by u guys, right? That's soooooo cool! Btw, is there a place where i can find out all the rules? *is this post not supposed to be here? :S
    As posted before, I got them from various places.
  • Keltosh
  • http://support.minitokyo.net/
    Utter alibism.
  • Celessa
  • ROFL - back from the dead, I see - whaz with this - more sarcasm and poking fun out of the site? I love it Quote by Paolo: ...hail to the thief... Well said - lmao **Takes off** Bye now. Read the support - k? Very important. Wisely said **nods nods**
    Please note that the support section is a filler by graphomans.
  • xandman
  • what the heck? Well said? I mean, i love thievery smiley smiley *chomps on the apple that i just stole from Cel's pocket... munch, munch* ...but that's not the point, the point is that the "thief" are stealin' the wallpapers from MiniTokyo *cracks my fists* smiley
    Oh, suddenly ripping from other sites is not your business?
  • arkive
  • i better not see any of my walls there..that hoe classic i love it...
    Why not?
  • Alpha
  • all thief must be banned indeed. Pal I see a lot of stolen walls... I can accept that some peoples use the character of the wall but the original thing is the bg. ripper bg is the question here and must be stoped right now!!. See ya!!.
    Man, I feel like I could just copy-paste responses to your repetitious messages!
  • tenshi07b
  • O_o Taking wallpapers that are NOT their own is bad.. tsk tsk. I wonder if he claimed it as his own... Well, I'm glad he's banned and that everyone will now know his name and beware..
    I didn't claim. And what should you be aware of?
  • MattsBooger
  • You guys did something good because I went to look and the site is down. HA! What a loser.
    That was maintenance. Do you think that a computer should be left running all dusty?
  • woodstock
  • Quote by Asahi: well .. i was searching for a 'illu serie' with google.. and than i found that site http://zwz.myftp.org/gallery/zwz_gal_wall44.htm with a lot of MT-wallpapers . i think that the owner of this site didnt ask us to link/take our wps their or ?? There are a number of options here. A whois on myftp.org reveals all the contact details of the domain hosting company, Vitalwerks with main registrant company in Las Vegas. A large number of complaints to this organization and they would probably take the path of least resistance and delete zdenek's extension. However, this should be a last resort. If wallers want their revenge, it should be done completely within the law. Any and I mean ANY, original art is actionable within the law and anyone who can prove copyright could take him to the cleaners. BUT... One thing I have noticed on the Zdenek site. There a number of girlie images used as wallpapers. Personally, I don't look at this kind of magazine anymore, but if anyone can recognize an image from one of the big magazines (Playboy or perfect 10 etc), send them the link to his site. These big organizations are getting very zealous in protecting their copyright and have a great deal of legal muscle. Woodstock
    They are just dumps of old porn sites... By the way, you are scanning Japanese mags and not only you aren't afraid of a legal case, but also don't feel as a ripper. How interesting!
  • GaiJiN
  • Quote by zdenek: A small intermezzo: They call my site shitty. Of course I don't have as complex CSS as them, but this site is optimised for speed and has to offer data, not spiffy looks. And my links are actually visible! Theirs aren't! And also notice how I didn't call their site's layout badly. Don't even try to request a link, if you aren't someone who is still on my side. Now he even goes against MT smiley rofl he is really crazy. Just read all the crap here. Quote by zdenek: Nuriko: This is my apple. (Looks friendly.) Zdenek: That must be a tasty one. Good choice. *picks another one off the tree.* Nuriko: Ripper! Thief! Die in Hell! Don't ever come near me!!! Let's everybody kill that SOB! (Chorus): Ripper! Thief! Die in Hell! ... Do you get it now? They still have everything what they had before and I didn't save praises. Somebody just cannot stand not having more than others. smiley And just how stupid is he ?
    Stupid. Refusing the truth is the last getaway when you are totally pinned down.
  • Rebel-Soul-Kaze
  • - - ok,i just check this guy page and,well...he is an a$$ Quote by Zdenek: Everything should be available for everybody. - -Yeah right,but this sucker dont give credit for all the things that he puts on the page,and then he try to say that MT is the bad side of the coin
    I give credit where known. Explore my gallery by yourself. I insert original URLs in the file directories' names.
  • zephiris26
  • Quote by zdenek: Nuriko: This is my apple. (Looks friendly.) Zdenek: That must be a tasty one. Good choice. *picks another one off the tree.* Nuriko: Ripper! Thief! Die in Hell! Don't ever come near me!!! Let's everybody kill that SOB! (Chorus): Ripper! Thief! Die in Hell! ... Do you get it now? They still have everything what they had before and I didn't save praises. Somebody just cannot stand not having more than others. And that statement also doesn't apply in any way whatsoever to what he's doing ^^;
    It does apply, the apples on one tree are genetically almost the same and picking another one is like copying that of the person who picked it as well.
    Why am I bothering? You weren't allowed to agree with me from the beginning.
  • cloudcherry
  • ^_____^ rofl check out his main page ----http://zwz.myftp.org/ here And read 'There's Something Rotten in Minitokyo' This guy is deffinately X-mt user zdnenek, the link to this site is on his userpage.
    This article is hidden from ordinary users, it's not their business. And I quite had to counterstrike after what you all have done.
  • hirochan
  • Hm. I doubt there are too many things that you can do, because if you look at the anime things you create (ie: anime wallpapers, anime banners, etc.) you have taken these images from the anime creators. I personally do not think that it is legal, but then agian, we can do what we want, because we are not making any profit off of it. The people that actually drew the manga/anime probably aren't screaming their guts out that some loonie online graphic artists are around stealing their artwork. It is unfair that your wallpapers get ripped off, but as you can probably see, his morals are not quite the same as ours...or muchof anyone's, as a matter of fact. x.x I can kind of understand his reasoning, though I am not him, so I really can't fully... But let him do whatever he wants. He doesn't think that it is wrong, so it won't do you any good to do much to him right now. He'll just go on another 'revenge' streak. And not to mention, obviously, this person has other access to this site. So denying of his IP wont' do too much.
    This post is very right.
  • KorganoS
  • mmm... wait... just out of curiousity... why did he mention Cloud-kun??, and if you read that thing, I just don't get the whole idea at all... smiley he might have a past grudge against MT, but bashing the site and rip off it is something a retarded would do... smiley
    The site moderators just infringe with the flow in wrong ways. The wallpapers themselves are good. But the people pursuing their ©-ideals are just on the wrong way.
  • zephiris26
  • pfft. There's something rotten in MT smiley You were banned, now shut your hole and get over it ^-^
    I'm getting, I'm getting. I have almost got. You truly aren't worth worrying about from my side.
  • Dende
  • slow!!!????>=( smiley thats no worth word for that daaaaaaaaaaammmmmmnnnn site Danm & damn again>=( smiley , i've never in my life visited such a mess, i cant see all the pages because I get pissed with that "speed" if we can call it like that.... well hope that he pays for what hes doin see ya around real MT users!!! smiley smiley smiley by the way look at this Quote by Zdenek:: The wide spectrum of the users of the Minitokyo community realised that I am actually hosting (not only) their wallpapers and such. And they are also pissed. And call me names. However, I have got different set of morals that they deem terribly wrong and I deem it right on the other hand. So, download as always and don't suffer from all the restrictions they want to impose. The motto of this site and me goes, Everything should be available for everybody. I believe that this is the best way to fulfill it. If I ever had to stop hosting these, I'll find another way to get the wealth to you. i understand that they don't understand. They never can. Here I win!
    I pay for it, because it's right. But judging from the amount of quotes by me here, I won't have to do it for too long, cause this thread will all mirror it!
  • Celessa
  • **Chomps on an apple** Hm... this still going on? It's like watching a movie of some guy named Freddy and he wants other people to die. O_o **Throws the popcorn down at some of the other peeps** Quiet - can't you see we're watching a movie? ROFL Problem is - now its being showcased everywhere - a lot of forums are getting all hyped up about it. Kids - if you wanna ever even think about super-leeching, don't try this at home. X_x
    If 1 is a lot of forums, then I'm Santa Claus.
  • D4rkKnight
  • If word spreads then let the guy keep his website up. No one will care about it anyway if they know that the Minitokyo artists are the origin of these wallpapers.
    The better, it will save my bandwidth for those who understand what it's here for. It allows people access long dead images and groups them into one browsable collection sorted by important criteria.
  • lensterknight
  • Zdeneeek! I remember him. The first - and, to date, only - one to really flame me through a wall comment. Cool guy. Well, not really. Not at all, I'd say. He liked to play the army game, or something, too. smiley That site is simply too slow for me to go and see if there's anything of mine there. smiley
    You didn't read the sig properly again. I said that the moderators are playing it against me. Not that I'm playing it. And it was a metaphor.
  • Vetus
  • Indeed. This dork's site is too slow for me, too. Do these rippers think they can fool people by showing stolen jobs as if they were theirs and make us believe that they are definitely theirs? For the sake of the God!!!
    If people don't pay attention, they could easily miss the 5 or so rants before the gallery links themselves.
  • KorganoS
  • then go leech that site down... smiley there might be a good point in him hosting the wallpies... that eases up MT's bandwidth somehow... smiley LoL leech it dry!!!!
    Somehow this plan failed.
  • pink-mafia
  • thats not good
    It's not working.
  • thor933
  • Dude, what the hell! Do they not have anough respect for others to AT least give them credit? i mean, dang, think how many people, nad how many hours busted their tails over working on those works he ripped. smiley
    I have respect. You MT members are those who just want to get rid of everyone around.
  • chibileeny
  • I dunno..
    I'm starting to numb as well.
  • PastorOfMuppets
  • he is just jealous ...probably he/she doe'sn't have the propel skills to make some of his own...
    I have skills and appraise what they created.
  • Aztech
  • ah, complainst rarely ever work. i vote for the nasty virus! :P
    How could you get it into my computer?
  • yannisan
  • Not really a nice comportement smiley
    Comportment is the right spelling. Nice negotiation might work though.
  • maetelx
  • wow ..even my wallies are there i am famous now smiley
    You aren't.
  • CyanideBlizzard
  • Its Zdenek, this action doesn't shock me considering its the guy that said he'd be playing the Army Game. To be honest I also think hes well versed with matters of hacking as well. If not hes a very experienced man nonetheless which I honestly don't think you're gonna really reach by words. Hes just gonna keep doing what he wants. Its how hes always been. Its how he was when he was here and he'll probably remain that way until he dies. Unless you can provide some form of illegal action hes doing and actually be able to file it, I really don't see anything MT can do about it. Expect watch him do it. Unless you can take action yourself. I wouldn't recommend hacking him...he knows how to defend himself so unless you're a professional...I wouldn't try...Just an estimate judging from his site (hes defended it many times before from what hes wrote).
    Just leave it all alone and it will save us a lot of trouble, right?
  • blue-cookie
  • Seriouly, could he/she have used another nick to access to the database here and thus 'steal' all the hard work of the all those who have done a great deal to produce nice works? smiley Tis' totally unethical. The mentally he/she had is wacko. I went to the web-site and read it. Those are just excuses he/she had. *Wanna flood he/her mailbox? Maybe that will stop the actions for a while *No idea on how to stop tyhe root problem though... smiley
    I'm gonna do it properly... sometime.
  • digireal
  • wowwza it's gundamzz...did you or do you still browse deviantart? I remember gasping @ your avatar back a few years ago when i was a design-nub. Too bad Anime section is gone (it's been gone for a while) from deviantart... /sobs
    Deviantart considers MT-styled gallery illegal, so why do you mention it?
  • ShueiTenshi
  • Hey he' s got mine wallpapers that I made for gamebabes.de in 2000 or smthing!!! Woooa!!! Well actually the only thing he does is to redirect his hard drive using a DNS protocol, probably unix2 or 4. That is very obsolete and is not protected by new versions of Firewalls (after 2001 I thnik) ^^ Cracking up his @$$ will be a piece of 5 hours work ^_^ You just have to learn the basics Tutorial? Get the Black Book from the Hackerz section of my site:: www.spiridislabs.net Then get revenge for everyone smiley smiley edit:: Hmm ,hmm what I wrote here is not permited i think (hacking) but what he did is not permited as well so it will serve him well smiley smiley
    That spiridislabs site is lamer than I thought... Yahoo Geocities! LMFAO!
  • Artemis251
  • That is pretty low, but at the very least, s/he did mention the original site...I can sorta understand where s/he's coming from. As a new member, I'd love to d/l scans and fanart, but this restriction by user level bans it. S/he's prolly just letting others get things like this without having the user spend years here building up enough of a rank to do a simple thing as d/l a picture...which is seriously making me not want to add my fanart to this site. I can upload it all, yet I wouldn't be allowed to see my own fanart? It just seems a tad odd to me.... There's reason in all, you just must seek it out. :/
    See, you are welcome here!
    That's all, folks!